Arrival-time distributions as a probe of the preferred foliation in relativistic Bohmian mechanics
Arnaud Amblard, Aurélien Drezet
Abstract
Relativistic extensions of de Broglie-Bohm theory postulate a preferred foliation of space-time, an additional structure essential for defining simultaneous configurations on Minkowski space-time, but conventionally believed to be empirically undetectable at quantum equilibrium. In this paper, we outline an experimental protocol for empirically detecting the preferred foliation, which is assumed to be flat for simplicity. Building on the arrival-time distributions for spin-1/2 particles predicted by Das and Dürr, we show that in an EPRB-type experiment with spacelike-separated spin and arrival-time measurements, the observed arrival-time statistics will depend crucially on the temporal order of these measurements relative to the preferred foliation of space-time. This dependence offers a potential experimental signature of the preferred foliation postulated by relativistic Bohmian models. Moreover, it implies the possibility of superluminal signaling.
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Core Contribution
This paper proposes an explicit experimental protocol for detecting the preferred foliation of spacetime — a fundamental structural postulate of relativistic extensions of de Broglie-Bohm theory (specifically Hypersurface Bohm-Dirac models). The protocol builds on the spin-dependent arrival-time distributions derived by Das and Dürr (DD), extending their single-particle predictions to a two-particle EPRB-type entangled setting. The central result is that in an experiment with spacelike-separated spin measurements (Alice) and arrival-time measurements (Bob), Bob's observed arrival-time statistics depend on the temporal order of measurements *as defined by the preferred foliation*. This dependence provides both (1) a method to empirically map the foliation and (2) a superluminal signaling protocol.
The key insight is captured in Table 1: when Alice measures first (relative to the foliation) with transverse spin orientation (ˆx), Bob sees an "exotic" distribution with a sharp cutoff; in all other cases (Alice measures first with longitudinal orientation ˆz, or Bob measures first regardless of Alice's choice), Bob sees a heavy-tailed distribution. By fixing Alice's measurement to ˆx, the distribution type becomes an unambiguous binary witness of temporal order.
Methodological Rigor
The theoretical derivation is carefully executed within the Bohm-Pauli framework (non-relativistic limit of the Bohm-Hiley-Dirac model). The paper clearly traces the chain of reasoning: starting from the two-particle singlet state, computing Bohmian velocity fields for both temporal orderings, and showing how Alice's measurement choice propagates non-locally through the configuration-dependent weights to alter Bob's guiding field. The mathematical treatment is explicit and detailed (including a full appendix with guiding field derivations).
However, several methodological concerns deserve attention:
1. Non-relativistic framework: The calculations use the Bohm-Pauli theory, not a fully relativistic treatment. The authors acknowledge this and cite Das (2021) showing qualitative features persist relativistically, but the gap between the non-relativistic calculation and the relativistic claim is non-trivial.
2. Idealization of the de Broglie correspondence principle: The entire edifice rests on the assumption that unperturbed Bohmian trajectories accurately predict detector outcomes — an idealization that has never been tested in regimes with robust quantum backflow.
3. The foliation detection protocol (Section 11) is elaborate but practically challenging: it requires rotating and tilting the entire EPRB apparatus, performing ~10⁵ measurements per run, and iteratively searching for "switch points" where distributions transition. The precision requirements are not quantitatively analyzed.
4. The paper does not address decoherence effects, detector back-action, or finite-resolution effects that could wash out the predicted spin-dependent signatures.
Potential Impact
The implications, if the underlying assumptions hold, would be extraordinary: empirical detection of a preferred foliation would constitute evidence against standard relativistic covariance, and superluminal signaling would overturn a pillar of modern physics. The paper is transparent about this conditional nature ("if DD's predictions are approximately correct, then...").
More practically, this work contributes to the ongoing debate about:
The comparison with Herbert's FLASH proposal (Section 13) is particularly instructive, showing how the no-cloning theorem invalidated FLASH but does not straightforwardly apply here, since the present proposal relies on a different mechanism (non-POVM arrival-time statistics rather than quantum cloning).
Timeliness & Relevance
The paper arrives at an active moment in the arrival-time debate, with recent proofs by Goldstein, Tumulka, and Zanghì (2024) that DD's predictions are non-POVM, and ongoing experimental interest in testing Bohmian arrival-time predictions. The paper responds directly to Tumulka's 2007 challenge to "think up an experiment for which the model predicts that its result reveals the time foliation."
Strengths
Limitations
Overall Assessment
This is a thought-provoking paper that makes an original theoretical contribution by connecting arrival-time predictions to foliation detection in a precise, operational manner. Its impact depends critically on the empirical fate of DD's predictions. As a theoretical exploration of the consequences of non-POVM arrival-time statistics, it is valuable and well-executed. As a practical experimental proposal, it remains speculative and would benefit from quantitative feasibility analysis.
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